Allot of us knew that it was going to happen.
The way this current administration was so busy taking about family values.
Georgie W speaking of the government funding maternity homes in the presidential debates.
The ban of funding towards stem cell research, but over a million dollars going to funding embryo adoptions at Snowflakes in California.
Aggressive and mandatory adoption awarness training for any place that provide abortions.
The current scary status of the Supreme Court.
Yeah, Roe vs. Wade was going to be in serious jeopardy.
Well, it has come to pass.
This week the bill goes before the South Dakota Governor for signature that will outlaw abortions in the whole state except in caes where the mother’s life is in danger. So no choice for rape, no choice for incest, no choice for teen, no choice for any women. Yeah, it has already been passed by the legislative branches.
And the adoption agencies are just getting ready for the outpouring of new “unwanted” babies to find loving homes for.
Now the question remains…will America simply overlook this…being that it is after all South Dakota. I don’t even think I know anyone is South Dakota. Will this flagrant resisitance to a national policy by the former Supreme Court be left unturned or will it be appealed, as expected, and make it’s way up the judiciary branches? My guess is that they will find a way to take it back up to the top. That it IS all a plan indeed. And soon we will see the very fabric of Roe vs. Wade be questioned in the now right wing Court. And guess how that might turn out?
I kept on talking about this all last week in my real life. And not ONE person was even AWARE that this was happening. This is in New York..a nice, blue, intelligent state, in a place where people tend to be aware, educated, young and very effected by what is going to happen. And the general consensus..”Oh, they wouldn’t DO that! They can’t!” with great disbelief and some very weird trust in the current solidarity of the current laws as etched in stone.
It’s not etched in stone, they CAN do it…laws get overturned and amended all the time..and I believe that they really will try their damnest. After all they have God on their side..right? Heck, at least they have Georgie Porgie and he THINKS he is God. Same thing.
Now I don’t like tying in adoption to abortion, as I see the two choices to be different choices completely.
Just a brief recap: When one finds themselves in an unplanned and ill-timed pregnancy, they have the first choice to continue on with the pregnancy or terminate…atleast for now. Now if they decided to terminate..they do. End of story. IF they decide to carry the child to term, THEN we have the choice between parenting and placing the baby for adoption. I do like to err on the side of parenting as a first choice. And while I am not a great fan of abortion..I see it as a necessary evil. Not to be taken lightly, not a form of birth control, but accident do happen, life is not always easy, and well..I feel that it is a RIGHT that women do have some modem of control over their reproductivity. heck, if you don;t like abortions, then don’t have one. No one should make you.
Having had two abortions myself, I say personally, without a doubt, that they are MUCH less life altering than Max’s adoption was.
Not saying that I wish I had aborted him, though I was lead that way. I wish, as it should be obvious by now, that I would have parented him. But all in all, the abortions are mere blips on the radar screen of my life, while the loss of Max was a major change in hemispheres. This is not to say that women do not have feelings of sadness, grief and loss over them, but mine…completely minimal if at all existent.
But enough about me..back to the politics.
The lines of this country are being drawn even more firmly.
There are those with money and choices, protected and favored by the current administration and those who are not blessed by the protection of wealth. The middle class is being made to fall either above or below the lines. Don’t think that we really are immune being good, hard working, tax paying fools. Naha. Do you got the cash or not? Will your children have enough to be favored or screwed? Think long term here.
Let’s be hypothertical in a very real way.
The numbers of uninsured Americans grow larger every day. So much for the National Health Care bills..Hiliary..what happened?? They don’t have health care, because they dont have good jobs that offer it, the businesses can’t afford it..and so what is the current fall back..Medicare..should cover basic reproductive control, right? I mean after all..if you have a lousy job and no insurance, then you can’t afford a baby anyway, right. I mean, that is a good thing for the country overall right? A sign of a progressive, intelligent population. But the government really doesn;t support reproductive control or they wouldn’t do this.
Or if you can’t be bothered linky linking..
“Today, half of all women who are sexually active and fertile but do not want to get pregnant need publicly funded services to help them access birth control,” said Rachel Benson Gold, director of policy analysis at The Alan Guttmacher Institute. “Yet in Congress and the states, we are facing a potential ‘perfect storm’ that could make it harder for these women to get contraceptives, counseling, and STD testing that help them plan their pregnancies and protect their health.”
Ok so if you can’t afford birth control, then you have to take your chances. Great. So Russian Roulette pays off and a pregnancy results. And even now, it is not nearly as easy as it once was to get an abortion if one should choose. There are very few service providers. The doctors are scared for their lives due to radical pro-life antics and in some areas, some states, only 1 or 2 centers must service huge geographical areas. And that’s NOW, while it’s legal. Ok so let’s look at next year or the year after that, when we have lost the protection of Roe vs. Wade and we have NO options except the illegal.
Right now, a legal abortion goes for about $500.oo. and without insurance, many women who couldn’t afford the pill to begin with, can’t scrape that money up. So doubling that fee, or trippling, for the illegal option is not going to expand that choice really, is it? Nope.
So now a woman with a low paying job, no insurance, no birth control, not abortion alternative, has no choice but to have this baby. But wait..she can’t afford it..she has no insurance..so how is she going to afford this pregnancy even?? State and Federal funding towards social programs keep getting cut because we need to keep funding this little war of Mr. Georgia pooh’s and, oh right, what the hell to woman and children matter anyway!
But, thank goodness we have adoption!! What a great loving option for women who really HAVE NO OPTION! Is this a choice? But the government can somehow afford to promote funding for maternity homes?? Good place to put our tax dollars because who can afford the adoption fee’s of 10,000 to 45,000? Oh right, the growing population of the higher class. The ones who could afford and education. Because not only is our government cutting healthcare benefits to the poorer, but they are attacking education too. So only the trully wealthy can afford to stay wealthy and have the good paying jobs, that afford the insurance, and control their fertility and pay for pregnancy and OMG..get a tax break for adoption too!!!
Yeah, I am ranting. Yeah, I am really pissed off. I see a country coming where the poor are made to stay poor with no help. I see a middle class being forced to choose. I see a country where the younger, vulnerable, lower class have no options, no choice, no control over their bodies and their lives and are made to become the baby makers of those who just take and feed off of us. And women loss their motherhood and souls in the process. And the government is allowing this, and facilitating this to happen.
Me, I am already done. This will not effect me anymore. But I have a daughter. I have son’s who will have girlfriends. I have younger friends who still struggle and haven’t made these final choices yet. And you know what…we don’t all have IRA’s and college funds. And THIS all really SUCKS!
Better a dead baby than an adopted one? Have you ever had an abortion?
anonymous: she said she had two, if you would have read her whole blog comment.
So, yeah, I’ve kinda seen this comming for awhile. Did you know that georgie pooh and Laura pooh are both on the board of the national adoption thingy watchit?(I’ll get back to you on the name of this one).
It really makes me sick. Class warfare. :'(
Oh, where do I begin….Well, maybe with the fact that Georgie pooh did get a girl preggers when he was in his early twenties and she had an abortion. I guess it was good enough for him when he was in a pinch!
I work in an abortion clinic and I have been telling women for years that this is happening and all I have heard is “That will never happen” and crap along those lines. It is very frustrating, but I think the problem is that the women who are of reproductive age were not alive when abortion was illegal. I actaully met a woman the other day who was getting an abortion who never knew it had been illegal! It is something that the women of today take for granted. No one is teaching women’s history in high school. It is very sad, but I think until something very bad happens (and I think we are there) most women are not going to believe it is possible. I think they find it hard to believe that they could be descriminated against that much.
There is even a shortage of providers. They don’t make a lot of money, they have to fight to be taught the procedure in the first place, people try to kill them and harass them as a regular part of their day, they are generally ostracized from the medical community and the government interfers in their relationship with their patients. The clinic I work in has primarily a staff of older workers. The nurses and doctors that we have were working in the ER when abortion was illegal and saw women die. That is why they have dedicated themselves to it, but there is nothing to inspire the younger generation to act this way.
About the politics of it, I bet Georgie Pooh and friends is actually shitting his pants right about now. As much as they say they want to make abortion illegal, I don’t think they want an outright ban. This would galvanize the pro choice people, which is a majority of the US. Right now they are complacently living in thier denial. It would also create havoc in the welfare system, which we all know the conservatives are not fans of.
I am terrified about all this. I feel as if this administration has moved us back 40-50 years. Sorry I hogged up so much of your space!
Connie
Oh Connie..you did not hog at all…you said exactly what I have been thinking.
And thank you, Heather, for reminding our Dear Anonymous to freaking read! Have you ever lost a baby to adoption dear one??? Have you lived this hell or only benefitted from it?? What do you want to do with all the babies “saved” from the evils of abortion? And wat about their mothers…who cares if they can;t control their wanton sexual desires?? Oh, wait..how is THIS for a question..do YOU have sex???
For people who think that only “planned” children have a right to be raised by their parents, that “unplanned equals unwanted” (a HUGE myth), i read the other day that 40% of ALL pregnancies – married or single parents, old or young mothers, are unplanned! Even married women get abortions. Not just single women or teenagers. Fundamentalists get them just as
often as secular humanists.
How to stop abortion?
1) Provide NON-POVERTY-LEVEL financial support, childcare, and housing to ALL mothers who need it!
2) Celebrate ALL pregnancies as God-given miracles! Even if the mother is a teenager or poor. As long as teenage moms are considered to be delinquents and social problems, they’ll get abortions and/or commit infanticide out of shame of being pregnant. You won’t need “Safe Havens” for babies if you honour and congratulate and support the Mother!
3) Ensure that highschools and colleges all have affordable or free daycares on-site for students, along with for-credit parenting classes, and have on-site public health nurses to ensure that ALL students get pre-natal care!
4) And for colleges: on-campus family housing, not just residences for single students. Provide parent resource centers on campus as well. And scholarships for single mothers and the children of single mothers. A university education breaks the “cycle of poverty” so why not offer it to all single moms and their children? Other nations do!
5) Currently, if a mother receives Medicaid and gets pregnant again, her baby will not have medical coverage as that supposedly deters poor people from having children. The child will have NO medical care! Provide medical insurance for ALL children, not just those of wealthy families who can afford to pay the premiums!
6) Believe it or not, many mothers who have lost children to adoption go on to have abortions as they are scared of the pain of losing ANOTHER child to adoption. Comparing the pain of the two, losing a child to adoption was a THOUSAND times worse than losing a fetus to abortion! I KNOW!
– an exiled mother
Anonymous again. I read this blog earlier before you added more to it, so no, at that time you did not put in there that you are a baby killer. I HAVE placed a child for adoption, which is exactly why I don’t believe in killing babies. I didn’t kill my kid.
Special Interests:
Marvin Bush(the youngest son of the elder George Bush) and his wife, Margaret, adopted 2 children from Gladney in Fort Worth, TX. Margaret Bush had ovarian cancer when she was very young…I think she was only about 18 years old at the time and so was left infertile.
Barbara Bush, wife of the elder George Bush, also served on the steering committee for the National Committee for Adoption in, or, around 1979 or 1980…this then became the NCFA…the National Council for Adoption…which has lobbied for the promotion of adoption and sealed records. And the Infant Adoption Awareness Act, which passed Congress a few years ago.
NCFA was started in response to the growing movement for opening records and the growing numbers of mothers and children who were searching for each other and speaking out of the pain caused by adoption separation. NCFA called organizations such as CUB and AAC ‘antiadoption’ because these groups wanted to open records and also because they wished to see natural families preserved rather than separated.
Things I had not known:
Laura Bush is a member of the Gladney organization in Texas.
“I HAVE placed a child for adoption, which is exactly why I don’t believe in killing babies. I didn’t kill my kid.” – anon.
No, you just had a “nine month abortion” which is how many adoptees put it, describing how they feel. Ever hear an adoptee say they would have rather been aborted than adopted? I have, many times.
Hmmm…nah, I didn’t kill any of my children either. Soemtimes, now, they do tempt me. But that just a trial of motherhood, so I deal.
But, seriously. I don’t feel like I killed anyone. I did decide at two points in my life that I was not in the position of conitinuing to be the parsitic host for the lovely blobs that would have turned into more juice needing, cheese consuming, stop fighting with your brother children. And I am OK with that.
What’s nice is that it could have happened that way.
And again, abortion is real nice right now as if you don’t WHAT to have one, if you personally feel that it is against your moral integirity, then you simply do not have to have one.
See it is this thing called America, which the real purpose of which is dying in front of our eyes and no one wants to see it, and it has alot to do with personal choices and freedom. Like if I say I hate adoption. I think it is killing the souls of mothers. Can I force you not to have adopted your child? NO. Can I force you to have had an abortion? NO.
BUT
You say that about abortion. And then you can, with the governments help now, force me not not have an abortion and force me to place my child for adoption by regulating my ability to choose.
It is going beyond what you believe vs what I believe. What works for me vs what works for you. You had our choice at least.
So have you ever had an abortion? How then, can you really compare? And do you just love adoption? And think that all the unplanned children should just be placed for adoption? And how happy are you if you inisit on bothering me here..minding my own business. Hmmm..for someone who is so Ok with their child’s loss..why do you bother, Dear anonoymous?
No, I’m not happy that my child was adopted. It was a damn hard decision, but better than what I could have offered as a parent and better than having snuffed out that tiny life. I don’t believe that the freedoms in America extend to murder. I believe that life starts at conception. I don’t believe that if women couldn’t get abortions that this would necessarily increase the numbers of adoptions. I would hope that more effort would also be put into helping these mothers, so they could parent. In my view, you really did kill 2 of your children and it is no different to me than if you took a gun right now and shot one of your current children to death. Murder is murder.
Hey Claud, phoenixfish here.
first off – Jesus Christ on a popsicle stick, anon!!!! What is your deal? leave the preachin to the preachers – you have no right to tell this woman she is a murderer. Go lurk somewhere else.
As far as this whole DEAL with South Dakota – unfortunately i am from there – and also was very pissed to hear of this injustice – for however you feel on the abortion issue – our rights are clearly being ignored and violated and also I believe this is and should not be legal! Who the f*** is South Dakota to decide they know more than the f***ing Supreme Court?
Once the govt starts messing with a woman’s rights to anything – there is scary territory.
The thing that really blows is that South Dakota is home to some of the worse poverty – the reservation which is home to my tribe is known to be worse off than some 3rd world nations. I certaintly hope they have something up their sleeve to help THAT situation, esp when indian babies are the ones who start popping up needing adoptions. Alot of white families don’t want ethnic babies (a proven fact) but even if they did, ICWA declares children should go to native families. I see this overthrow of abortion as helping no one and a rise in foster care situations.
Interesting also that George W is so moral about fetuses dying and yet in his first month as governor of texas he signed more death row warrants than any other governor in US history. Not to mention – all the pointless deaths in the middle east. How can he sleep at night? the bastard.
I guess if we are going to outlaw abortion altogether then there needs to be strong public policy to help women in unplanned pregnancies. And as GW has shown, he woudl rather cut funding to the poor and give tax breaks to the rich. He has set us up for disaster in so many ways. I could go on and on. but this isn’t my blog. Sorry, Claud!
Oh Anonoymous…it must be nice to be so one sided on an issue that you can be so blind to the facts. They are NOT going to help funding for people to parent. That would be logical. If they wanted to really help us all then they would do as “anonomous poster number 3” states. Read..they are cutting funding, they are cutting foster care sprnding, they are cutting education, they are cutting Medicade.
Yeah, yeah, murder smurder. Sorry, don’t buy it. Go peddle your gulit issues somewhere where someone actually cares.
Phenoixfish, Rachel..no problem..rant away!! Oh, so I DO know someone in South Dakota. Please keep us up with this nonsense! K?
You get a huge tax credit to adopt — $10,000 is it now? You on the other had get NOTHING if you are unwed, unwaged, and give birth. you are out of luck. and a social worker will be right there are your hospital bed, most likely, asking how you are going to support that child and you darned well had better have a good paying job or you know what happens next. get ’em while they’re marketable and all those “fostadopt parents” are just dying to get that baby. so the adopters get $10,000 tax credit (and more each year if your child they adopt is “special needs” i.e. male, non-white, or your family has a history of some disease) to adopt the child you didn’t have the resources to be able to keep.
and you can bet that adoption agencies and lobbyists such as NCFA donate to pro-life campaigns. after all, if abortion is outlawed, there will be more product for the market, right?
In other words, in the jolly USA, only the rich are allowed to keep and raise their own children, and BUY everyone elses!
So, “Ms. Murder is Murder,” how much did they buy YOUR baby for from the broker (i.e. lawyer or agency)?
Anonymous who commented on social workers showing up at single moms bedsides: that goes against what I’ve heard. If a woman tries to make a voluntary adoption placement, hospital social workers often are known for trying to talk her out of it. With close to half of babies being born out of wedlock, you’d see way more babies being “taken away” if your theory is correct. Babies are often removed from a mother if the mother has drugs in her system or if there is previous abuse/murders of children on her record, but are babies really just being taken away from competent moms just because they can’t show that they have enough money? I don’t know…I’d like to hear more about this. Oh, how I long for the old ACLU adoption boards where all this was discussed constantly…blogs don’t give the same forum for discussions.
Gotta love all the folks who voted for Bush (none of them can claim that they didn’t see this coming, because it’s exactly what a vote for Bush meant). Now that Alito is in, there will be a wave of these laws that are likely passed. South Dakota just happens to be the first to really make the press (if I’m not mistaken, they voted for Bush at a much higher percentage rate than the rest of the country, so they are very red and very conservative). Hold onto your hats, because bills to restrict abortion have been presented in Georgia, Ohio, South Carolina, Tennessee and Indiana (more fun red states!). They just haven’t hit the press as much yet and people are not well-informed enough…as usual Americans know more about American Idol than they do about which states are passing which laws to usurp freedom. Sigh.
LINK: Standard
Hospital Procedure- A Report from Kansas
“At some hospitals, when a single mom comes in to have a baby without insurance, it’s standard procedure to call CPS and tell them that they think this new mom is having trouble bonding with her baby and they get CPS to take the baby straight from the hospital, CPS pays the bill then and the infant is placed immediately with potential adopters. Unless someone comes forward with money for good legal assistance, she’ll lose the baby because some hospital social worker said on Day One of the birth, that the mother “didn’t seem to be bonding.” There will never even be an abuse or neglect accusation. It isn’t needed if she’s too poor to hire a good attorney.”
same procedure is standard in many states and in Alberta and Ontario in Canada — being single,young,poor are all ‘risk factors’ for which social workers use to screen for “risk” that the mother will later neglect or abuse her child (and neglect can be sheer poverty — not having enough money to feed or clothe your child or heat your house — or even not having a place to live at all).
LINK: CFSA update – February 21, 2005
“High risk mothers are now being screened in hospital. I was recently asked to be hired by Toronto public health to counsel bereaved moms in hospital …”
“High risk” now includes being young, unwaged, having been abused by your parents or by a spouse, not having medical insurance, and having a major illness. There is a checklist that is used. Nurses “red flag” unwed mothers and the social worker is called in.
This is no joke.
The links didn’t work for me.
Somehow, if first trimester abortion was so evil, I don’t think god would be so casual with miscarriages.
I mean if it really caused babies pain and was killing them, I don’t think God would murder anywhere from 20-25% of them.
Does that make God the biggest baby killer of all? 😉
You think God causes miscarriages? So it just follows that He must cause adoptions? Weird.
Uh..enough God.
The scientist in me says that God does not cause a misscarige, though I “got” the analogy. I tend to beleive that it is the bodies way of saying that either the pregnancy is no viable, or the mother does not have the physical ability to carry to term..for the mulitude of reasons. Heck, I like Darwin.
I don’t beleive that God has anything to do with adoption at all. Except that the loss of a mother and child makes my God cry.
If we want to play the God hand, then God gave us free will. And therefore we have choices. ‘Nuff said.
Yes! It’s the end of the world as we know it….. (minor sarcasm).
kris – Funny, cause I just told the people in my house about the South Dakota decision to ban abortion, and without watching any news at all… said, first it’s south dakota, then it’s the rest of the red states, then it’s going to be illegal all over the US. So easy to predict…
I agree, too, with the post about women on medicaid and hospitals calling CPS. Well, CPS wasn’t called on me, but they saw I was on Medicaid and that I was single, and so Dr. Adoption took on my case. It’s really not so different.
Well, God allows millions of people to be starved and murdered in wars. God allows huge numbers of women to be raped, people to be brutally murdered and killed, tortured. God allows all kind of horrible, horrible, horrible things to happen. So just because God says it’s ok, just because the laws of reality allow it doesn’t make it ok in my book. Don’t mean it don’t hurt.
I still like my quote from Deadwood.
“If this is God’s will, then he’s a Son-uf-a-bitch.”
(While I believe that a fetus at some stage DOES have feelings, however primitive, I believe the stages are subjective and it is a womans right to decide how “feeling” the being within her is. Also, if the childs life is going to be horrifically difficult, perhaps an abortion would be an act of mercy?
(And if you say any life is worth living, than why the heck push adoption?)
Again, a woman should be able to make these decisions for her unborn child.
I am STILL fuming over this. I told my hubby, who is adamantly pro-choice, and listens to the news daily, about it last week… and HE DIDN’T KNOW. He was furious, of course…
I am still sitting here trying to figure out why people don’t KNOW about this? OBVIOUSLY the media is not as “left” as some people claim, because if it WERE, I’d have heard indignant editorial comments on my local news staion last week, rather than that “big story” on sleep apnea (insert a rolling eyes icon here).
It really is all coming down to money in this country. Money, money, money. You have it–you’re okay. You don’t–you don’t count anyway, so who cares if you’re not okay?
UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHH.
I want to MOVE.
Oh yeah… one other thing. Have you read “The Handmaid’s Tale”? It’s an excellent book… but I swear, I’m getting scared that our country is moving in that direction.
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