This might go down in the “adoption history” timeline as the year that the adoption activists had the great rift.
What started out as a gentle reminder, grew into a misunderstanding, adding some hurt feelings ,a bruised ego or two, mix in some folks who are adding a biased spin with darker motivations and WALA! You have a great rift, lines drawn in the sand, and everyone is a talking about it. Who the bad guys are, if there really are any, depends on who you get your information from.
And really, the final outcome is that this is just very sad. It is most unfortunate that a) the issue happened in the first place and b) it has taken on a life of its own because, the bottom line is that we all want the same things. And when we fight each other, we are too busy to fight the industry. I bet they just love this. Bill Pierce must be laughing in hell.
Now I do not claim to know all the players personally. I know some and know of all. We are talking about the “biggies” in adoption reform, books, writing, etc. Oddly, the kind of name recognition that I would love to have. Like mentors., those great ones that have come before me, I am suppose to aspire to be like them?
Right now, I feel ashamed that people are acting like this.
I’m not going to lead you to them from a links. Find it yourself if you would like too. So if you want half the story…and half the private emails..go for it.
In a nutshell though, it looks like this:
Origins and Adoption Crossroads are having a big conference next week. They do not like the term Birthmother, don’t use it, make no bones about it.
Betty Jean Lifton was invited to speak and agreed.
Joe Soll, from AC, sent out a reminder to all not to use the term because it is hurtful to many moms who would be attending.
Lifton said she would be using her language no matter what feelings were about it. She didn’t care.
Joe replied that if that was the case then, really just would not work. It would not be appropriate for her to speak.
Then, when it became obvious though other people that she was upset with this, it was decided that fine, they would deal somehow, maybe it would be a good way to discuss the whole label issue. Other possible prefixes were offered.
And Lifton again said no.
So now we have a few key issues that have come into question.
The first being…well what the hell is a big deal about one little word?? Now my last post touched on the origins of the word birthmother and how we got stuck with it to begin with. So we know now that it was first used by Pearl S. Buck, an adoptive parent in 1956. It was used in the UK by social workers:
“The term ‘birthmother’ was coined by social workers in United Kingdom maternity prisons in the 1950’s to replace the term ‘natural mother.’ It was further promoted by social workers in the United States in the 1970’s. This word was coined to define us as having been mothers at the time of birth, but not after, and thus to diminish us to having a solely reproductive purpose in our children’s lives. In order to sell adoptive parents on the idea of adoption providing them ‘a child of their own‘ , social workers must first eliminate our motherhood in their clients’ eyes.”
We also know that This article,” Identity Conflicts in Adoptees”/American Journal of Orthopsychiatry/ ,45(1) January 1975. by Arthur Sorosky, Annette Baran, Reuben Pannor, published in Jan 1975, but submitted for publication in March 1974, contains the b-word in its introduction.
Now with the birth of CUB in 1976, I can understand that the intent to have a universal recognizable name, an identity, was necessary. What we do have hear though is conflict on the choice of the word. The word “birth” as a description was already coined and used by proponents and endorsers of the separation of mother and child. According to Lee, in the summer of 1976 “we agreed on `birth parent’ and birthparenthood. ‘ We didn’t want to upset adoptive parents with `natural.‘ And `biological’ now made us gag. `Biological, ‘ we felt, was descriptive of a mechanical incubator or unfeeling baby machine. `Birth’ was the key. With `birth parents’ as one word;.. we were like other one-word progenitors, like grandparents. Here lies one of the main issues with the word..it was used to NOT upset the adoptive parents. It is commonly pointed out by legions who are now, unwittingly birthparents, that their actual legal paperwork has them declared as “mothers” and “natural mothers”, but those words were dumped for the comfort level of the ones who had oppressed them. “Natural” made adoptive parents feel “unnatural”, but they couldn’t complain if the label kept our role to the one time event of birth. So many object that, while it might have been a necessary political move to use a word to compromise with the adoption proponents, it still took away from how many moms see themselves. And not all of us got to vote on this issue either…so a small minority making a grand decision for a rather large group based on a political maneuver, rubs some the wrong way too.
Now Lee totally understood and felt the obsession of not being able to self identify. In Rickie Solinger’s Beggars and Choosers, Lee describes her feelings with meeting the federal level adoption panel…”She described her frustration with the panel’s members insensitivity in terms she knew would resonate with her sister birth mothers. After only a few meetings, Lee had felt put down by the group; she believed they thought she was too uppity for an unwed mother and wanted to put her back in her place. To do this, she believes, panel members rejected the term “birth mother”. Lee was “stricken” by the members disregard for her preference.” It was as though I was an African American, surrounded by dominant powers who were callously insensitive to what I preferred to be called”……Lee’s identification with the oppressed deepened. “Now I was not only an African American surrounded by insensitive, I was also an African American surrounded by those who called me the N-word”
So the feelings are the same, it is just what word invokes said feelings. That part has morphed and this is obviously very different for many different people.The same folks that mock moms now for having issue with the word are the same ones who say we should respect the fight that has gone on before. So Lee’s feelings of “stricken” have more value because they happened first? Due to the vast embrace that the adoption community has had with the word “birthmother”, the victory is now hollow. The very word that was suppose to give us rights has backfired, and now we are “only birthmothers”, just the one to give birth and any animal can do that. We become birthmothers the minute we think about adoption and call an agency, allowing us to be pelted with “Dear Birthmother” letters, and hailing us for our wisdom and selfishlessness. And then, only a birthmother will we ever more be, while to many, we still are and always have been the Mother. The word has outlived its usefulness. Now it is a liability.
Now the second issue is who has the right to self-identify and self-define? Truthfully to me, this is a moot point. Anyone has the right to name themselves whatever works for them and feels comfortable. Some women do embrace the Bterm. Whether that is what they always knew and they just don’t feel the negative connotation, or whether they remember when it was a victory and it still works for them despite it being misused to death now. But for many, they just hate it and it is a very important sticking point. The majority of Origins and Crossroads members fall into the last category and they have decided to not be birthmothers. So here we have a group, self defined, coming together to discuss things in a perceived safe arena and someone else, who is not identifiable to that group, saying that she doesn’t care what they want to call themselves, she is using HER words no matter what they have decided works for them and if they don’t like it, then they are uneducated about what the word really meant as far as victory for others who feel differently.
She took away the choice for a group to self identify by saying that she would not respect their choice. Because Lifton is an ADOPTEE. Not a mom. So she has no right to identify others in this arena. She might call her own mother whatever works for her, but to address a group that has clearly said “No, please do not call us that. It is hurtful.” is just that…hurtful.
Now, I think Lifton knows this and understands it. In my hunting about, I have found places that claim “Although author Betty Jean Lifton is credited with “coining” the term “birthmother,” which she later stated she regretted,”.
Then we have, “Adoption has a language all its own (apart from the terminology imposed by the system–which many of us reject–such as “birth” parent, “adoptive” parent, “illegitimate, ” “bastard,” “can of worms” and “chosen child”). [NOTE: The term, “birth” mother was coined not by the adoption industry per se, but by psychologist Betty Jean Lifton, in her book, “Lost and Found” about 20 years ago. Lifton later stated that she has since lived to regret stigmatizing mothers. The terms “birth” mother, “birth” father, “birth” parents and “adoptive parents” were used by authors of a few poems according to adoption language at the time” from Lori Carangelo here. So I don’t understand how Lifton can regret something that she didn’t do, but I can take it as she regret using such terminology that she sees now as oppressive and populating it’s use. So why did she object to dropping the regreful term and just use natural or first as requested?
Another big issue here is the idea of censorship. Defined as the control of speech and other forms of human expression with free speech and all, we do not have the right to silence anyone. It is said that OUSA and AC do not have the right to sanitize what Lifton might say and that would be true. I don’t see any book burning going on. But this is their conference, so it is also well within their right to create an environment appropriate for their audience. To do that, than this one word does not work. Is it more than one word? We know that the word means allot more than just the five letters designated to many people it applies to and is considered very hurtful when used.
Technically she was asked to drop just one word and even given other words to sub in. “It would be a kindness”..not a decree, not a ban, a kindness. Would the expression still be the same? Could she have said the same message without using the Bterm? I think yes, and even more so, her message would have been heard better if folks were not recoiling in the bad feelings that come from the use of it. Now what expression was needed to be given by insisting on using whatever terminology she wished? Personally, I have trouble saying that this is censorship unless she knows that using Birthmother makes relinquishing mothers feel degraded and ashamed and wants to do this. And if that is the case, then why would she agree to speak in the fist place? Really, if that is what she was about, then no, she should not have been a keynote speaker. But who saw that she was a adversary to adoption reform, open records, and rights of mothers? I would never have guessed.
Now we can get to the who knew what the other was about and when. OriginsUSA and Adoption Crossroads have not just now decided on their feelings on the Birth prefix usage and sprung the concept on all. It is one of the foundations of their work and is shared by many other groups also not just OUSA. The Canadian Council for Natural Mothers uses, obviously, natural mothers. Even on Soul of Adoption, many of the adoptive parents can understand and respect the moms and don’t use birthmother. All this hoopla about “word police” is just silly to me. There are just too many who identify with the word being negative and those will be the people who join and participate with both groups. I would say that there is a great measure of trust in the members that the word is not used and would not be subjected to it at their own conference at their own emotional expense. Heck, I am in Origins and I don’t use the word there because I understand and respect those who feel the pain from it, yet, no one stops me from saying it outside. I never got kicked out of the clubhouse. If you like being called a birthmother then I would say OriginsUSA is not the place for you..don’t go to the conference.
It can also be said that since Lifton has used birthmother in her work that OUSA and AC should have been more aware. I am more along the thoughts that she does use for the same reason I do when speaking to politicians and media..it is recognizable and we, her and I, perhaps don’t have the huge emotional investment in it, but understand the need not to use it in certain company that does. Plus not all of her work is current, much of it being published previous to the word being so corrupted. I am not going to fault her for using it in her work. No one is saying she must republish because the meaning and connotation of the word has evolved, but perhaps I wrongly assumed that she was aware of that evolution? Nah, she is a smart lady, right? She knew, if she didn’t know than how could she have regretted it?
Now, I do not believe for one minute that the “reminder” was planned and manipulated to hook speakers in and then change the conditions of the speaking. For one, it is clearly stated from the beginning. The website for the conference had the request stated in red all along. Plus the application for presenters had it as well, also in red. If anyone has a copy of the actual “invitation” for keynotes, that would be helpful as opposed to assuming it was all trickery on the part of Joe Soll. And if it truly was not there, then let’s just damn a person to hell for an assumption of like mindedness and understanding coupled with an oversight of clarification because how dare anyone not be perfect. Can we say misunderstanding and miscommunication..hallmarks of human relations.
Another thing to take into consideration is politics and egos…I am going to try my best not to bash anyone here since I strongly feel it hurts us all and I am not out to make enemies and call out those I disagree with, but I do see this as coming into play big time. Joe does have a huge following of people who adore him…why?? Because he has helped them. He focuses in healing work and assisting in making reunions positive and because they need that, and it works, they believe in him. Since when is helping people a bad thing? And are people bad for needing that help? How can people effectively work for change if they are still too wounded and broken to function. How effective can any movement be if you have bleeding-broken-angry-crying-half-dead-issue-plagued marchers? What a mess that would be..or is, for that matter. Maybe one of the reasons all this is getting so out of hand. Tons of unresolved hurts, perhaps?. Dare I say the “angry” adoptee punishing the cyber moms for abandonment? Or maybe just a case on bad PMS and catty women? Yuck. Gosh, maybe we all just need a big group hug, a little cry and some chocolate!
For whatever reason there are some that don’t like Joe and by association AC and OUSA. I don’t know why. It doesn’t make sense to me..to me we shuld all be working together and finding bonds, not issues. But it is there, and has been before this incident. Maybe because OUSA/AC have upped the anti and been very clear and vocal in their efforts? Maybe because they are the young “upstarts” and don’t bend to the will of the “old guard”? Maybe that they don’t accept the word decided 30 years ago as legitimate and still maintaining value and others see that as taking away something from them? Why, because so many love him and just like supposedly we can only have one mother, we can only have one official movement? Ummm, duh! Is he really that horrible because he says “please don’t use the word birthmother..it is hurtful” and many people agree, but not everyone…. and since when does everyone ever agree on everything? Too many big fish in a small pond? Are big fish are taking bites out of the little fish and exerting their dominance?. Who is the bully? The ones who dare something different or the ones who call them stupid for daring? Oh, ego rears its ugly head. It’s just not the principles of this particular issue, it is the motivations behind it that are disturbing. Too many have jumped on a minor occurrence and made the mountain out of a molehill. And truthfully, I am guilty for even adressing this issue and adding my pile of dirt on top.
Who was suppose to have foreseen this issue? A simple request among like minded gone awry. A reminder taken the wrong way as a insult and control has blossomed into a full scale mud slinging match that hurts all involved. To me, that it very sad and honestly, I can’t even fault the direct players for having a human conflict and standing by their own personal integrity. That OUSA and AC have a foundation of avoiding the word Birthmother as a label for their moms is not a bad thing. That Lifton feels that her prerogative to use her own choice of words and it overrides that avoidance is also OK and in her right. I am not going to damn her for doing what works for her. Nor, will I damn OUSA and AC for attempting to compromise and avoid all this crap by reissuing the invite when it began to look like this. I credit OUSA and Joe for not getting involved in playing he said/she said and really wish Lifton could have tried to work with them also. I wonder how did only half the private emails come to light and why were they not all exposed then for people to draw their own conclusions? That’s a sign or damage control and political maneuvering done behind the scenes, but at whose cost and why, what motivation? Isn’t this all about something much more than who looks good and who blundered? Aren’t we all really about changing the industry, reform and open records, and preventing unnecessary adoptions and family loss?
A conflict yes, but not a war. And now just a mess. The rumor mills are calling that other presenters cancelled due to this, when in truth some workshops just had not enough interest and the speakers had a choice to continue or not. No one else is freaking because they can’t say birthmother and that the fear of the censorship shackles if they slip up. I’m still going and I tell you, it will be very nice to sit with other like minded folks and talk about adoption while not being called a birthmother. Imagine that..an adoption conference with NO BIRTHMOTHERs….just moms! I would have like to hear Lifton again, but I don’t want her calling me a Birthmother. I will be there next week and it is not to be made to feel like crap and see my other sisters hurt. And while it is her right to use whatever words she wants, thankfully, I don’t have to listen.
I say end all the prefixes and lables..let us just be mothers.
Plus, with the age old “the opposite of natural is unatural” then the opposite of birth is death.
I will be a BirthMother when adoptive parents become the DeathParents. Like a “forever family“..until death? Totally ridiculous isn’t it?
Yeah, that’s my point.
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Well said, Claud. I agree with you that it wasn’t much to ask of Lifton to refrain from using this word while speaking to this particular group. Basically, it was a matter of manners…not censorship. The life this little thing has taken on is something else…much ado about egos. Thanks for putting another viewpoint out there.
Claud I hope the Conference turns out ever so well. Glean all you can,then give us the highlights.
Have no idea either why there are Joe bashers. I’ve never met him (have his book) but know several moms who have met him and/or gone to the retreats. All have said he is a gentle, sweet man.
His methods aren’t for all to follow,so what?? There can’t be, a one size fits all, adoption experience anyway.
I’m not so sure Claud *we* all want the same things anymore. I get an icky feeling in my gut, the adoptee rights groups and mothers’ groups, will be working less and less with eachother.
As for BL…if she believes birth mother is that much a part of her identity (because of her books and association with CUB) well at least now we know it. Give the women a stipend for her missed book sales table and life goes on.
Anyhoo, I’d sure like to be at the Conference. I’m hoping Ann Fessler is as authentic in real life as she came across in the book.
Keep up the good work mom!
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Whew, I just read your entire post Claud. You never cease to amaze me with your wealth of information and insight.
Thanks for sharing.
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okay i did not read the whole thing.. but “divide and conquer’ is what the general theme is too me… is this the conf in nyc — let me know when it is… maybe i will come check it out with you and we can stay at the mattf abode and save some bucks…
i don’t like the censorship — if she is using a word before a group she knows does not like it – she shoudl use it but hit the topic head on and say WHY she is using it…
(i don’t dig the DeathMom at all…)
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Dear Claud,
Thank God you make sense, thank God someone can point to the logical side of things.
Hope to see you at the conference.
thanks for this post.
Kristen (14pearl84 on LJ)
Too much to respond to – good post! I will say that I think I know why Joe Soll is disliked by some. I have not met him, but, I have met some women who have been to his healing weekends. They come back all militant and afraid to use the “b” word ever again. If another mother uses it in front of them, they frown and freak. Maybe that isn’t a bad thing – maybe he just raises their consciousness.
However, I resent another mother telling me what I can or should call myself. He trains women to do that, and I do not like that. I get to decide what to call myself.
I’m sorta in between the old guard and the new. While I am definitely old, I have only been in this adoption fight for a few years. I understand the dislike for the “b” term, but, I also understand women of my generation thinking it is fine. They are entitled to use whatever they want. I try to raise consciousness all the time about the “b” word, BUT I do not belittle or get nasty with people who use it – simply because it is the most common term. We can change that. Even though this has created some negative in-house battling, it has people talking about something important and that’s good.
I had an adoptive mom specifically use the b word it as 2 words yesterday in an email to me, just out of respect because she knew I preferred that. I happen to believe that you get further by not alienating and being hyper militant – that’s me though.
If we ever expect to change adoption, we need to find ways to reach adoptive moms too. Like it or not, they have a lot of power. Maybe Lee C knew that when she attempted to find a word that worked for them and us. Making fun of birth moms who aren’t intentionally rude or hostile to adoptive moms seem popular now. However, I think we have a lot better chance of changing their hearts and minds if we do not intentionally insult them. We need to attack the agencies, and educate adoptive moms. Sorry – didn’t mean to get carried away! Who, me?
Claud, K said it all for me. A voice of reason amidst the storm! I personally do not care for the b word. It negates me in a way I find hard to explain. I am sorry Joe, AC and OUSA are bearing the brunt of this firestorm. Divide and conquer indeed! I think the solution is to have each and every presenter explain why they used the terms they used and make it clear that no none is using a word to belittle or make us less, but rather they used the word in the context it was used for orignally. How east would it have been for BJ to explain that her work was done when the B word was not misused and used to belittle us and make us less than what we are and were.In short why not say “I used the term bmother to differentiate between amoms and natural moms” how easy would it have been for BJ to agree to something like that? I love and respect Joe for many reasons. Chiefly because he does understand and he works each and every single day to help those of us hurt by adoption to heal. IF only all of us could speak with one voice.. *sigh* I wish it were so easy, but there are divisions even among us. All we can do is keep speaking our truths, outloud and proud. Refuse to hide in a closet any longer and speak out whenever and where ever we have the chance!
I hope you get to see K speak. Her work is really excellent! (and that is not mom just talking either!) Have a good time at the conference and please mail me all the details!
(((((claud)))))
“”If we call ourselves natural mothers, are we meaning hurt to adoptive mothers? “”
When I call myself mother or natural mother, the adoptor mother is not even a blip on my radar screen. Nor am I concerned about the adoptor mother’s hurt feelings when I think, feel and identify with those words that are the truth defining my natural motherhood. But that’s just me!
“”If we ever expect to change adoption, we need to find ways to reach adoptive moms too. Like it or not, they have a lot of power. Maybe Lee C knew that when she attempted to find a word that worked for them and us.””
Why do the adoptor mothers have more power? Who gave it to them? And who took our power as mothers away? We lost our parental rights when we signed the surrender doc., but on top of that the laws of our land were initiated to further make us powerless non-entities, by witness of the legalized lie of the amended birth certificate. The ABC not only stripped the adopted person of their original family heritage and identity, but also stole the mother’s identity and medical history (record of birth)and inserted another woman’s name in place of ours. In the eyes of state legislated laws we mothers became invisible, non-existent human beings. Invisible, non-existent people have no power, but perceived visible, existent people, even just on paper, than have all the power.
Adoptor mothers did not come by their perceived ‘power’ fair and square in my eyes. Legally yes, but only because they needed protection from us. Why?
I read elsewhere about adoptor mothers clamoring for their brand of ‘adoption reform’. Mostly it is about $$$$$ (lessen the cost of adoption) and shorter surrender time frames, for both mother and father. I don’t see that as ‘adoption reform’, but more about ‘convenience reform’.
as usual claud, outstanding piece of work and i completely agree. i will be at the conference, i do support joe, i am a member of origins, etc. thank you for clarifying and articulating all this so very well. see you next week.
“If we ever expect to change adoption, we need to find ways to reach adoptive moms too. Like it or not, they have a lot of power.”
My guess is that enslaved African-Americans never said to their brothers, “If we expect to change slavery, we need to find way to reach slave owners too. Like it or not, they have a lot of power.” Or follow it up with “So we can’t go around calling ourselves ‘people.'”
Because being a mother is like being a person. It recognizes you a human being. Right now, adopters only are happy when we choose to define ourselves as organs of reproduction, a.k.a. “birthmothers.”
What if victims of rape were labelled “vagina-women” by the courts, the rapists, and society? What if they decided they needed to get the support of rapists in order to effect change? if once you got raped, you were no longer a woman but were a “vagina woman”? Yes this analogy is gruesome, but it is the same type of analogy as between “mother” and “birthmother.” With the term “birthmother” you are reduced to being a body part. In this case, a uterus and birth canal. in the case of rape, a vagina.
I do not wish the support of my rapist. She has none of my best interests at heart. She wanted my baby and that is why I lost my baby, because I was powerless to stop the system she had hired.
NOT ALL adoptive parents fit this analogy, but it is a very rare few that see us as being human beings and not just the means to producing a baby. Those that acknowledge that I am still a mother and not a “birth mother” (with or without a space it makes no difference), i respect them also. Because the term “birth[ ]mother” reduces a human being to being a bodily function, to not have a role in the life of her child other than gestation and delivery.
Read any article on “Positive Adoption Language” and you’ll see how they differentiate between “birth mothers” and mothers.
response to cookie: Joe does not “train” anyone to be anything. He teaches you what the word REALLY means, and backs it up with evidence.
please check out the numerous articles on “Respectful/Positive Adoption Language” which the word “birthmother” IS part of. it spells out clearly that motherhood ended at birth and was stripped away with the signing of the surrender papers.
And the word IS triggering for many women who still suffer from PTSD due to losing their babies. It triggers feelings of violation, helplessness, pain, loss, and memories of how hospitals and adoptioneers treated them as breeding stock, as solely women to be harvested and discarded. THAT is why the word is one that a therapist should think twice before using.
Birth mother is a stupid word, birthdaughter offends me highly.
It is reductive plain and simple, have read the CUB explanation and when I read it, feel like it’s pandering, self-depreciating. ‘Look it’s ok not claiming to be mothers just claiming this one tiny shred of motherhood’
I lost my mother. No two ways about it.
(((Claud)))
You are so well spoken and complete in your explanation. 🙂 TY!
Claud said. “I will be a BirthMother when adoptive parents become the DeathParents. Like a “forever family“..until death? Totally ridiculous isn’t it?”
Ridiculous, I agree.
Is anyone insisting that you do use the term?
Kippa,
Know you asked Claud the question of insistence.
I’ve been at public hearings, committee meetings, speaking with legislators where it was “suggested” (strongly) by the Open Records Coalition, we refrain from all mother terminology except the term, birthmother.
We moms were all given, ‘Birthmothers Never Forget’, pins to wear as well.
Would there have been a welcome into the Coalition for a women who refused to call herself a bmom…NO, plain and simple.
But would they have been actually denied membership if they had not been willing to accept the term, especially if the terms of membership had not been clearly spelled out to them beforehand?
I should add that, if that were the case, I would have found it equally objectionable.
IMO, something which is recommended as a “kindness” does not (or should not) amount to a condition. “Suggestions” are not conditions,however strongly made.
My feeling is that once the invitation was made (and I’m referring to the written invitation recieved by Lifton herself) and accepted, it should have been respected, regardless of her language preferences (especially as they were known beforehand).
It could even have been a valuable point of discussion
Although both parties were well aware of each others preferences, the primary responsibility rests on the party making the offer, IMO, because they had the prior advantage. If there was no qualifier in the original invitation, one should not have been added after the fact.
Kippa,
Would they have actually denied membership? Not sure if actual membership would have been denied. (membership was basically established by a donated check or some real service to group)
But the freedom to express opinions (at least at public hearings/rallies)was limited to group think, group talk. I do believe if a mother had insisted on addressing herself as a, mother or natural mother, she would have been asked to this:
#1 please reconsider using birthmother because it’s the term legislators and the press best understand. It’s the better term to use for the purposes of getting the above to consider opening the records. (ie…don’t make waves, don’t rock boat)
#2 if you can’t use birthmother please consider forming your own Coalition. (make your own waves, rock own boat)
Now, I didn’t rock the boat, I used the birth mother term. Held my nose and promoted the cause above my own preferences.
However, I do feel I could not do that now. If I ever get to testify in MA. I am planning on using the term mother or nmother.
Claud, excellent, thank you for putting your thoughts out there, which are the best way to educate us a-parents.
Mae,
What I wonder is, would a person who simply stated their preference for for being called “mother”, and used it to refer to themselves and others in that way, had their CUB membership cancelled because of it?
Been officially excommunicated, as it were.
I don’t know. I certainly hope that if that had been the case, somebody would have stood up in defence of freedom of speech.
In such a hypothetical scenario, I’d imagine that others who habitually used the same term, but who were not members of that organization, would hvae been very incensed and regarded it (rightly, IMO) as an infringement of the right to free speech.
You said, “But the freedom to express opinions (at least at public hearings/rallies)was limited to group think, group talk.”
This sounds to me very much like the same thing that’s been going on lately.
I feel that public debate about these issues IS important, and that it’s a great shame B.J Lifton won’t be speaking at the conference because IMO her input would have added a valuable dimension to the level of discussion.
That’s one of the reasons why I applaud Bastardette and Claud for bringing this issue into the public arena by enabling people to discuss (or cuss!) on their blogs – it’s evidently still not something that is cut and dried (though do I think it’s been cut up and hung out to dry – but it clearly needs a stake in the heart and a good dollop of garlic if it isn’t to rise up from the dead in all it’s boring gruesomeness yet again). Freedom of expression IS a political issue, especially, and while politically correct terminology is reflective of current thinking (you know I refer to myself as mother, but that I allow myself some latitude depending on the demands of the situation),
it’s familiarity that’s primarily responsible for changing public perception about whether a term is acceptable or not – and I don’t think this issue can be forced.
Although it can certainly be nudged along.
I would love to have been able to attend this conference, regardless of the fact that I might have had some conflicitng opinions (and although I might not have been able to resist stating them, calling myself “birthmother” would not have been an issue). Unfortunately it’ was not on the cards for me to be there.
I hope the conference goes well, and I look forward to hearing about it from Claud.
…..the thing is, good manners and generally accepted rule of thumb is that it’s considered VERY rude and almost unthinkable to disinvite someone who’s already accepted the invitation. You’re supposed to smile, be gracious and make the best of it….at least that’s how the classier acts do it. The collorary is that the invited guest then does what they can to gently acknowledge the difficulty but then go on to find common ground.
Nice post. And I agree with you. I think it’s too bad that we can’t all get along. It’s too bad we get caught up by small stuff and let the big stuff go on.
I wonder what percentage of bio-moms were forced to relinquish? My sis-in-law is a bio-mom. I know her family wanted to help her keep her daughter. My step-sister also relinquished a child, but she didn’t even tell anyone until after the fact.
Kippa,
“””it’s familiarity that’s primarily responsible for changing public perception about whether a term is acceptable or not – and I don’t think this issue can be forced.
Although it can certainly be nudged along.”””
Of course.
Yet, women who have chosen to use natural mother/mother have not been nudged about their choice of terminolgy, their own right of self identification. Instead, they have been repeatedly scolded, chided, belittled, lectured to use the term, birth mother, in the public square.
B. Lifton was asked to do as she has asked so many mothers to do. So, why no reverse courtesy of language usage from her?
I can’t applaud Marley’s blog. It was a witless, condescending, mean spirited, attack on a fellow adoptee and mother. ( Joe and Karen) Marley didn’t rally a call a call for unity, a call for reasonable respect of one another. (It’s her blog to do as she wishes.) From my perspective though she wasn’t looking to bring a discussion of this into the public arena, she was looking to create a blood fest.
All the blog did for me was alienate my affection for BN.
Now Claud…she’s another story…peach of a lady.
Auntie wrote, “auntie said…
…..the thing is, good manners and generally accepted rule of thumb is that it’s considered VERY rude and almost unthinkable to disinvite someone who’s already accepted the invitation. You’re supposed to smile, be gracious and make the best of it….at least that’s how the classier acts do it. The collorary is that the invited guest then does what they can to gently acknowledge the difficulty but then go on to find common ground.”
I agree.
Joe and OUSA both knew Lifton’s preference for the “B” word before they approached her, just as she knew their feelings about it.
Given that, one would assume there was already some kind of understanding between them before the invitation was made and accepted.
Whatever went wrong?
All I can say is, weird.
“Yet, women who have chosen to use natural mother/mother have not been nudged about their choice of terminolgy, their own right of self identification. Instead, they have been repeatedly scolded, chided, belittled, lectured to use the term, birth mother, in the public square.”
I can’t answer to that. But I don’t think it has to be an eye for eye, any more than it has to be about turning the other cheek.
“B. Lifton was asked to do as she has asked so many mothers to do. So, why no reverse courtesy of language usage from her?”
Books, Mae, books. When something is out there in print it’s different – I don’t know how, but I know that it is.
I imagine it would have felt like recanting to her.
She’s known for and was invited *because* of the stuff she’s written.
“I can’t applaud Marley’s blog. It was a witless, condescending, mean spirited, attack on a fellow adoptee and mother. ( Joe and Karen) Marley didn’t rally a call a call for unity, a call for reasonable respect of one another. (It’s her blog to do as she wishes.) From my perspective though she wasn’t looking to bring a discussion of this into the public arena, she was looking to create a blood fest.”
All the blog did for me was alienate my affection for BN.”
As you say – it’s Marley’s blog to do as she wishes. She’s on record as stating that the opinions recorded on it are hers alone, and don’t necessarily reflect those of the membership as a whole. You may not chose to believe that, but I do.
“Now Claud…she’s another story…peach of a lady.”
Now there we agree.
Well…I feel very peachy, but still find things more and more confusing.
Even if Lifton is given some immunity because it is the word refered to in her work..then in her work,”Lost and Found,” (1979), she states..
“A game that controls reality must control language. Adoptive parents insist that the woman who gives birth to their child must be called the biological, the genetic, or the birth mother; to refer to her as the natural mother would be to imply that they are unnatural.[Chapter 4 (‘The Chosen Baby’), fn 1] p. 19
[Chapter 4, fn 1] Although I prefer the term natural mother, I am using birth mother in this book in order to avoid an unimportant controversy over what I consider an unimportant issue. Also, birth mother has the advantage of acknowledging that someone did give birth to the Adoptee.”
So she states CLEARLY that she prefers to use “natural mother” but absolutely refused to do so
Hey, Peachy, that’s REALLY weird.
This is getting dark and Byzantine.
Shall we have a séance?
Seriously though, perhaps if she compromised once to keep the peace – maybe she’s gone on strike. No more compromises. Like, enuf is enuf.
Just speculating.
Also, “. . . to avoid an unimportant controversy over what I consider an unimportant issue.” I think, there you go. I’m inclined to agree with her.
I think freedom of speech is much more important.
but, is freedom of speech more important than traumatizing people who are attempting to live with severe long-term PTSD? hearing “the b-word” re-traumatizes many mothers, as it reduces them once again to being nothing more than strapped down prone to a delivery table while their babies were taken away without so much as a by-your-leave. we had no choice, it was a form of rape, we suffer horrendous flashbacks that are triggered by reminders of such violation.
calling us ‘birthmothers’ again reduces us to being powerless imobilized birthers, the way we were treated, as walking incubators.
BJ Lifton if she is truly a therapist would have some compassion for the moms who find this an extreme trigger for them. feelings of loss, powerlessness, violation, shame and pain accompany that word for many.
at least the terms “first mother, “natural mother” and mother don’t do this to us as they don’t encompass the whole violent disembabyment process we endured.
did you know that many of us were intentionally physically scarred by the physicians who delivered our babies? many cuts were made, without anesthetic, without pain relief. our arms were strapped down. we were totally flat on our backs, our legs up in stirrups. a sheet over our legs so we could not see our babies.
it was truly a form of rape, and that is the pain that the word “birth mother” stirs up for us.
… on another topic, i find it telling that BJ Lifton expresses a preference for the term “natural mother” in her book but says she uses the b-word as a compromise.
adoptionroadkill said…
but, is freedom of speech more important than traumatizing people who…..”
Freedom of speech is a fundamental right. We all will ultimately lose our right to, freedom of speech, if we don’t allow another to express themselves. Freedom of speech should always hold the trump card over feelings.
It would be essential to defend B. Lifton to the hilt (and anyone else) if freedom of speech were being infringed upon. No matter how ugly one’s speech may be, if a democracy is to exist, even ugly speech must be defended.
In this situation,it seems more like a family rift that morphed into a big family fight.
“Family rift”. That’s a good analogy IMO.
OTOH, it looks to me as if this particular family has been “dysfunctional” for quite a long time.
I’m inclined to think that getting it out there so that people can actually shoot the shit about it (like a ‘dousha’, or ritualistic street brawl, which in the long run helps, if not to actually resolve all the issues, at least gets a few things sorted out in the interests of progress). Might this not be an opportunity? Don’t know. But it would be nice at least to be able to hope so.
And since some of these issues aren’t likely to get air time at the conference (becuase of their sensitive – read ‘taboo’ – nature), it’s good to be able to touch upon them on Musings, Bastardette and other blogs where it is possible to speak without being censored.
ARK, I do have some idea about the kind of abuse suffered by mothers who lost children to adoption. I’m one of those mothers. I’m also an adoptive mother to a son (now adult) who was a “boarder baby”. Just so you don’t have any misconceptions (no pun intended) about me.
Oh, family rift is right!
See..i definatly do not get the sense that JS said “I want to control the speech of BL”..nor did BL think “He is trying makie my conpromise my consitiutonal rights to freedom of speech!!”
I think it’s was probably more like..”Oh let’s remind everyone to not freak out the moms…right, no bterm”..and then “Yeah, like *I* need to be reminded! Dude chill..I say what I want..plus it’s *me*..you don’t tell me”..and from there it got ugly.
I think making it about freedom of speach and censorship is finding clear motives for a mixed up situation and alloticating much more credit then the situation originally called for. It’s only in the rehashes that we apply the principles…at least IMO!
“I think making it about freedom of speach and censorship is finding clear motives for a mixed up situation and alloticating much more credit then the situation originally called for. It’s only in the rehashes that we apply the principles…at least IMO!”
Partly agree – but certainly the issue of free speech plays importantly into it.
“See..i definatly do not get the sense that JS said “I want to control the speech of BL”..nor did BL think “He is trying makie my conpromise my consitiutonal rights to freedom of speech!!”
Not in so many words. But I do think she probably felt the she had the right to use the language of her choice. Which amounts to pretty much the same thing.
Terminology is certainly something that could have been resolved between two parties who should have known everything they needed to know about each other before the formal invitation was even made.
“I think it’s was probably more like..”Oh let’s remind everyone to not freak out the moms…right, no bterm”..and then “Yeah, like *I* need to be reminded! Dude chill..I say what I want..plus it’s *me*..you don’t tell me”..and from there it got ugly.”
YES! Right on! That’s my guess too. Who knows how it would have played, if things had simply been left as they were? It must have really felt like it was being rubbed in to BJ, especially as she’d already capitulated to pressure once before (only that time to assuage the adopter faction), to no long term effect. Almost a repeat performance.
….I confess I haven’t read all the background information about the language. My point of reference is parenting.
…..in my own journey as a second mom I went pretty quickly from being threatened by dear daughter’s first mom to realizing that she’s a big part of our lives…even though there’s no way to make contact with her. We certainly think of her every day…even though we don’t talk about her everyday.
First mom and I are both her moms. I see it as my task be open to daughters’ feelings about her story and experience and both her moms whatever those feelings are and no matter what language she might choose to name me or her first mom.
Dear daughter’s well being is first in my thoughts. I (try and try) put mine second.